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		<title>By: Patrick McDermott</title>
		<link>http://dnmedia.com/pushtoauctioncom/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McDermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

You do something very nice on PushToAuction and that is allowing domains submitted to have Capitalized Keywords.

It makes it so much easier and a lot less effort to read through a long list of domains that look like PushToAuction.com
instead of pushtoauction.com.

Now if you can only get SEDO to follow suit.

At the risk of being a pain again, it might be nice to mention that this option is available on the submission page.

I&#039;d bet a lot of your users don&#039;t know they can use Capitals especially since SEDO doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>You do something very nice on PushToAuction and that is allowing domains submitted to have Capitalized Keywords.</p>
<p>It makes it so much easier and a lot less effort to read through a long list of domains that look like PushToAuction.com<br />
instead of pushtoauction.com.</p>
<p>Now if you can only get SEDO to follow suit.</p>
<p>At the risk of being a pain again, it might be nice to mention that this option is available on the submission page.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d bet a lot of your users don&#8217;t know they can use Capitals especially since SEDO doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Sumner</title>
		<link>http://dnmedia.com/pushtoauctioncom/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Sumner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Currently people just email me when they want to remove a listing, and they have to send it from the account that they entered when they added the listing.  However, we&#039;re working on an automated system so a user can fill out a form to request removal, and it will email a link to the account they used when adding the listing.  Clicking that link will remove the domain from the database.  I&#039;ll post when that is complete as well.

You&#039;re not a pain, I appreciate the input.  I&#039;m always looking for ways to improve the site, and you&#039;ve come up with some great ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently people just email me when they want to remove a listing, and they have to send it from the account that they entered when they added the listing.  However, we&#8217;re working on an automated system so a user can fill out a form to request removal, and it will email a link to the account they used when adding the listing.  Clicking that link will remove the domain from the database.  I&#8217;ll post when that is complete as well.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not a pain, I appreciate the input.  I&#8217;m always looking for ways to improve the site, and you&#8217;ve come up with some great ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McDermott</title>
		<link>http://dnmedia.com/pushtoauctioncom/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McDermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Let me know if I&#039;m becoming a pain.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Let me know if I&#8217;m becoming a pain.  <img src='http://dnmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McDermott</title>
		<link>http://dnmedia.com/pushtoauctioncom/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McDermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Last night I submitted 2 domains at PushToAuction and they are listed.

Thanks.

Since no one is (currently) required to create an account on PushToAuction, I was wondering 
how submitted domains can be removed.

I was just going thru the PushToAuction site again and don&#039;t see any way to do that.

Making it easy for the submitter to remove domains would help in keeping the Marketplace clean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Last night I submitted 2 domains at PushToAuction and they are listed.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Since no one is (currently) required to create an account on PushToAuction, I was wondering<br />
how submitted domains can be removed.</p>
<p>I was just going thru the PushToAuction site again and don&#8217;t see any way to do that.</p>
<p>Making it easy for the submitter to remove domains would help in keeping the Marketplace clean.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Sumner</title>
		<link>http://dnmedia.com/pushtoauctioncom/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Sumner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your suggestion definitely seems like the way to go as it solves the dead listing problem and the junk problem, all without creating too much of a burden on site users and eliminating overhead on our end.  I guess we would also need to notify users via email when their listing reached the three-month limit and expired.

I&#039;m going to get this rolled out shortly, and I&#039;ll post another comment here when it is done.  Thanks for your input Patrick, it is very helpful.

If anyone else wants to weigh in on how long a listing should be live before it expires, please feel free to do so.  Also, any other comments/suggestions are welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your suggestion definitely seems like the way to go as it solves the dead listing problem and the junk problem, all without creating too much of a burden on site users and eliminating overhead on our end.  I guess we would also need to notify users via email when their listing reached the three-month limit and expired.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to get this rolled out shortly, and I&#8217;ll post another comment here when it is done.  Thanks for your input Patrick, it is very helpful.</p>
<p>If anyone else wants to weigh in on how long a listing should be live before it expires, please feel free to do so.  Also, any other comments/suggestions are welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McDermott</title>
		<link>http://dnmedia.com/pushtoauctioncom/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McDermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Michael,

The problem with running software to see if the domains are still listed on Sedo is that Sedo does not 
currently have any system in place to check the domains in their marketplace that have expired or are 
under new ownership.

As you know you can list domains for sale on Sedo without using Sedo nameservers so a nameserver 
check would not be particularly effective.

Regarding checking WhoIs, don&#039;t some of the Registrars make it difficult to find out the actual Registrant info?

I had a problem every time I listed a domain at Sedo that I had registered at Name.com and was not using Sedo nameservers. 

Sedo wasn&#039;t able to confirm my ownership. I&#039;d have to &quot;prove&quot; I was the Registrant.

What if the Registrant is using WhoIs Privacy.

Limiting the time domains are listed would also help the &quot;junk&quot; domain problem I suspect.

Since listing domains at PushToAuction is free , taking the time to re-list your domains is a small price 
to pay and can only serve to help the Marketplace.

The less junk, the less clutter , the better for both Buyers and Sellers.

I think re-listing domains quarterly is reasonable. Not too short, not too long.

The button idea would also be good in addition so dead domains can be reported and removed before
the de-listing date.

I don&#039;t think the button would be a burden in any way. 

Many people are glad to help but no one is forced to.

I (sadly) am not a techie and don&#039;t know how to build sites like you do but I wonder
if listing the domain&#039;s expiration date when the domains aresubmitted could be used in any way 
to help with this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Michael,</p>
<p>The problem with running software to see if the domains are still listed on Sedo is that Sedo does not<br />
currently have any system in place to check the domains in their marketplace that have expired or are<br />
under new ownership.</p>
<p>As you know you can list domains for sale on Sedo without using Sedo nameservers so a nameserver<br />
check would not be particularly effective.</p>
<p>Regarding checking WhoIs, don&#8217;t some of the Registrars make it difficult to find out the actual Registrant info?</p>
<p>I had a problem every time I listed a domain at Sedo that I had registered at Name.com and was not using Sedo nameservers. </p>
<p>Sedo wasn&#8217;t able to confirm my ownership. I&#8217;d have to &#8220;prove&#8221; I was the Registrant.</p>
<p>What if the Registrant is using WhoIs Privacy.</p>
<p>Limiting the time domains are listed would also help the &#8220;junk&#8221; domain problem I suspect.</p>
<p>Since listing domains at PushToAuction is free , taking the time to re-list your domains is a small price<br />
to pay and can only serve to help the Marketplace.</p>
<p>The less junk, the less clutter , the better for both Buyers and Sellers.</p>
<p>I think re-listing domains quarterly is reasonable. Not too short, not too long.</p>
<p>The button idea would also be good in addition so dead domains can be reported and removed before<br />
the de-listing date.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the button would be a burden in any way. </p>
<p>Many people are glad to help but no one is forced to.</p>
<p>I (sadly) am not a techie and don&#8217;t know how to build sites like you do but I wonder<br />
if listing the domain&#8217;s expiration date when the domains aresubmitted could be used in any way<br />
to help with this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Sumner</title>
		<link>http://dnmedia.com/pushtoauctioncom/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Sumner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have software that we run from time to time that checks every domain listed on the site to see if it is still on Sedo.  However, in between runs there will still be some dead listings, and that still doesn&#039;t address the problem of domains selling outside of auctions.  They could either not be deleted from the seller&#039;s Sedo account, or the buyer could re-list it on Sedo without any intention to push it to auction.  Our solution obviously wouldn&#039;t catch either of those situations happening unless we cached the WHOIS information and de-listed domains where the WHOIS changed.

I think we&#039;re going to implement your suggestion once the number of listings on the site is high enough that it isn&#039;t practical to check them all at Sedo.  I would appreciate input from you and others as to what amount of time would be reasonable for a listing to stay active.  I don&#039;t want to make it too short where it becomes a burden for sellers, but I don&#039;t want to make it too long where the data is no longer relevant.

The only other option I can think of is adding a button to report a dead listing, but I&#039;d prefer to not pass that burden onto the buyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have software that we run from time to time that checks every domain listed on the site to see if it is still on Sedo.  However, in between runs there will still be some dead listings, and that still doesn&#8217;t address the problem of domains selling outside of auctions.  They could either not be deleted from the seller&#8217;s Sedo account, or the buyer could re-list it on Sedo without any intention to push it to auction.  Our solution obviously wouldn&#8217;t catch either of those situations happening unless we cached the WHOIS information and de-listed domains where the WHOIS changed.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re going to implement your suggestion once the number of listings on the site is high enough that it isn&#8217;t practical to check them all at Sedo.  I would appreciate input from you and others as to what amount of time would be reasonable for a listing to stay active.  I don&#8217;t want to make it too short where it becomes a burden for sellers, but I don&#8217;t want to make it too long where the data is no longer relevant.</p>
<p>The only other option I can think of is adding a button to report a dead listing, but I&#8217;d prefer to not pass that burden onto the buyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McDermott</title>
		<link>http://dnmedia.com/pushtoauctioncom/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McDermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 04:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

I hope you don&#039;t mind that I want to offer another suggestion.

I was thinking over your response above how you try to prevent junk domains
from taking over the site.

It dawned on me there is another ,even greater problem, and that is &#039;dead&#039; domains.

By dead domains I mean those domains that eventually expire but are still listed on the site.

I&#039;d like to suggest that all domains only be listed for X period of time.

Then they would have to be re-listed to get back in.

Forgive me if you&#039;ve already addressed this problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>I hope you don&#8217;t mind that I want to offer another suggestion.</p>
<p>I was thinking over your response above how you try to prevent junk domains<br />
from taking over the site.</p>
<p>It dawned on me there is another ,even greater problem, and that is &#8216;dead&#8217; domains.</p>
<p>By dead domains I mean those domains that eventually expire but are still listed on the site.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to suggest that all domains only be listed for X period of time.</p>
<p>Then they would have to be re-listed to get back in.</p>
<p>Forgive me if you&#8217;ve already addressed this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McDermott</title>
		<link>http://dnmedia.com/pushtoauctioncom/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McDermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Thanks for your thoughtful response.

I look forward to participating...hopefully with not too many junk domains.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughtful response.</p>
<p>I look forward to participating&#8230;hopefully with not too many junk domains.  <img src='http://dnmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Sumner</title>
		<link>http://dnmedia.com/pushtoauctioncom/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Sumner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patrick - Thanks for the compliment and suggestion, we have added the message to the submission guidelines.  In regards to keeping junk domains off of the site, the main way we did that was to not allow bulk submissions despite numerous requests to add that feature.  The more time it takes to add a listing, the more you will think about whether or not it is worth submitting.

We also added in the sorting of listings by the date they were submitted, with the most recent first.  That way all new submissions get the same visibility, and the good ones will get offers while the bad ones get buried.  The farther you go back in the results pages, the longer the domains have been sitting on the site without getting bids, which is a major indicator of quality.

Roughly 11% of submissions were pushed to auction, which means a lot of junk is being submitted.  However, we don&#039;t want to be in a position to approve or reject listings for two reasons.  The first is that a lot of domains have been pushed to auction and done well that most would agree were not worth $60 in the reseller market, and we don&#039;t want to stop those sales from happening.  Another is the deluge of emails we would receive from visitors asking why their listing wasn&#039;t approved, which would only end in resentment and time wasted since it is subjective.

We thought about adding voting, but will give that further consideration once the site gains more traction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patrick &#8211; Thanks for the compliment and suggestion, we have added the message to the submission guidelines.  In regards to keeping junk domains off of the site, the main way we did that was to not allow bulk submissions despite numerous requests to add that feature.  The more time it takes to add a listing, the more you will think about whether or not it is worth submitting.</p>
<p>We also added in the sorting of listings by the date they were submitted, with the most recent first.  That way all new submissions get the same visibility, and the good ones will get offers while the bad ones get buried.  The farther you go back in the results pages, the longer the domains have been sitting on the site without getting bids, which is a major indicator of quality.</p>
<p>Roughly 11% of submissions were pushed to auction, which means a lot of junk is being submitted.  However, we don&#8217;t want to be in a position to approve or reject listings for two reasons.  The first is that a lot of domains have been pushed to auction and done well that most would agree were not worth $60 in the reseller market, and we don&#8217;t want to stop those sales from happening.  Another is the deluge of emails we would receive from visitors asking why their listing wasn&#8217;t approved, which would only end in resentment and time wasted since it is subjective.</p>
<p>We thought about adding voting, but will give that further consideration once the site gains more traction.</p>
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